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		<title>Comment on New book: China&#8217;s Not Happy by Third Tone Devil</title>
		<link>http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/new-book-chinas-not-happy/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Tone Devil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;China&#039;s Not Happy&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is not my book. I don&#039;t know if there is an English translation yet, but I suspect you can find at least excerpts translated online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em></em><em>China&#8217;s Not Happy</em> is not my book. I don&#8217;t know if there is an English translation yet, but I suspect you can find at least excerpts translated online.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New book: China&#8217;s Not Happy by Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to buy your book, does it come in english?</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Israel is a good country&#8221; (Chinese philosemitism and the Gaza war) by Third Tone Devil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Third Tone Devil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Dingding. Wang Jingwen certainly takes the moral high ground -- Chinese and Jews are similar in that they get lots of Nobel Prizes (whether or not these individuals actually consider themselves Chinese/Jews) but Chinese are better because they are peaceful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dingding. Wang Jingwen certainly takes the moral high ground &#8212; Chinese and Jews are similar in that they get lots of Nobel Prizes (whether or not these individuals actually consider themselves Chinese/Jews) but Chinese are better because they are peaceful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Israel is a good country&#8221; (Chinese philosemitism and the Gaza war) by dingding</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a chinese woman who is living in Israel and she wrote a blog that introduce the life and the war and many things in Israel, it was so popular during the &quot;Gaza War&quot;, hundreads and thousands  chinese refresh their opion about Israel from her blog...
http://blog.sina.com.cn/galizreali</description>
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<a href="http://blog.sina.com.cn/galizreali" rel="nofollow">http://blog.sina.com.cn/galizreali</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on America finances &#8220;online traitors&#8221;, say media in China by KINABLOG.dk &#187; Ugens klik om Kina: Spioner, Twitter og en rig pige</title>
		<link>http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/america-finances-online-traitors-say-media-in-china/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>KINABLOG.dk &#187; Ugens klik om Kina: Spioner, Twitter og en rig pige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sandheden. Det kan man læse i denne kinesiske artikel fra Sohu, som bliver gennemgået på bloggen China Can&#8217;t Stop Saying No. Altså endnu et eksempel på lidt nationalistisk tuderi, hvor hele verden har rottet sig sammen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sandheden. Det kan man læse i denne kinesiske artikel fra Sohu, som bliver gennemgået på bloggen China Can&#8217;t Stop Saying No. Altså endnu et eksempel på lidt nationalistisk tuderi, hvor hele verden har rottet sig sammen [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Green Dam debate by KINABLOG.dk &#187; Censur i Kina: Den Grønne Dæmning og en kovending</title>
		<link>http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/the-green-dam-debate/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>KINABLOG.dk &#187; Censur i Kina: Den Grønne Dæmning og en kovending</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] China Can&#8217;t Stop Saying No har en i øvrigt en udmærket pointe. Den voldsomme modstand mod Grønne Dæmning er ikke nødvendigvis, fordi kineserne er interesserede i politisk følsomme hjemmesider og debatter:  None of this necessarily suggests that Chinese Internet users are becoming more interested in accessing politically subversive content, but it does seem that — for reasons that do not have to be political — they are generally annoyed and distrustful about the idea to saddle them with a government-mandated filtering software. This is not so trivial, considering that a number of surveys have indicated a high degree of support for government controls on Internet content. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] China Can&#8217;t Stop Saying No har en i øvrigt en udmærket pointe. Den voldsomme modstand mod Grønne Dæmning er ikke nødvendigvis, fordi kineserne er interesserede i politisk følsomme hjemmesider og debatter:  None of this necessarily suggests that Chinese Internet users are becoming more interested in accessing politically subversive content, but it does seem that — for reasons that do not have to be political — they are generally annoyed and distrustful about the idea to saddle them with a government-mandated filtering software. This is not so trivial, considering that a number of surveys have indicated a high degree of support for government controls on Internet content. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on New cafe opens in place of Forbidden City Starbucks by Third Tone Devil</title>
		<link>http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/new-cafe-opens-in-place-of-forbidden-city-starbucks/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Tone Devil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: Thank you for this contribution and the invitation to The Oriental-List. Sure, there is a much broader context to this issue -- the whole relationship between nationalism and consumerism in China that is one of the subjects of this blog. I am not sure if you read the main text in Starbucks in the &quot;Why Don&#039;t They Make Some Foreigners Kneel&quot; chapter (http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/chapters/foreigners-kneel/). 

What I was saying in the post quoting your comments was simply that I do not believe Rui was, in this instance, expressing views very differently from those of Western anti-globalists (or &quot;alter-globalists&quot;) or heritage conservationists, among whom I would rank yourself. The Starbucks at the Louvre is in the new underground passage, not in the palace -- that would be unimaginable, as would, in my opinion, a sponsorship sign under the Mona Lisa. As I am sure you know, a lot of Western academics and other leftist types love to hate Starbucks, and would never visit one, but feel free to go to Gloria Jean&#039;s because it&#039;s &quot;Australian,&quot; despite its sponsorship of (to my mind) sinister religious activities, or to Einstein because it is &quot;German.&quot;

In sum, my point is that in this instance, Rui deftly positioned himself in a discourse that is broadly acceptable in the West (and that is partly why it got picked up), even though the background dynamics -- I agree on this with you -- are quite different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: Thank you for this contribution and the invitation to The Oriental-List. Sure, there is a much broader context to this issue &#8212; the whole relationship between nationalism and consumerism in China that is one of the subjects of this blog. I am not sure if you read the main text in Starbucks in the &#8220;Why Don&#8217;t They Make Some Foreigners Kneel&#8221; chapter (<a href="http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/chapters/foreigners-kneel/" rel="nofollow">http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/chapters/foreigners-kneel/</a>). </p>
<p>What I was saying in the post quoting your comments was simply that I do not believe Rui was, in this instance, expressing views very differently from those of Western anti-globalists (or &#8220;alter-globalists&#8221;) or heritage conservationists, among whom I would rank yourself. The Starbucks at the Louvre is in the new underground passage, not in the palace &#8212; that would be unimaginable, as would, in my opinion, a sponsorship sign under the Mona Lisa. As I am sure you know, a lot of Western academics and other leftist types love to hate Starbucks, and would never visit one, but feel free to go to Gloria Jean&#8217;s because it&#8217;s &#8220;Australian,&#8221; despite its sponsorship of (to my mind) sinister religious activities, or to Einstein because it is &#8220;German.&#8221;</p>
<p>In sum, my point is that in this instance, Rui deftly positioned himself in a discourse that is broadly acceptable in the West (and that is partly why it got picked up), even though the background dynamics &#8212; I agree on this with you &#8212; are quite different.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New cafe opens in place of Forbidden City Starbucks by Peter N-H</title>
		<link>http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/new-cafe-opens-in-place-of-forbidden-city-starbucks/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter N-H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just stumbled across this posting, a little late in the day. I&#039;m glad the owners of this blog find The Oriental-List worth reading and perhaps might even consider contributing (http://www.datasinica.com for details), but it should be clear that this is a mechanism for the exchange of views on travel in China and not, like a blog, a medium managed by the moderator for his own pronouncements. Views there do tend to be a little more casually placed and casually expressed than is perhaps quite appropriate for the earnest analysis they are given here.

However, I do think Rui Chenggang is far from deserving the credit he&#039;s given above, and that there&#039;s a great deal more in the Starbucks issue to be discussed, perhaps along these lines:

A Storm in a Coffee Cup

Back in 2000 the Forbidden City management leased a small space to the ubiquitous coffee chain Starbucks with little fanfare, although after a few years and following some adverse comment the company reduced its signage to make its presence a little more discreet.

The Forbidden City had been awash in commercialism for more than a decade, with tacky souvenir stalls and second-rate snack outlets at every turn, so although the presence of the famous foreign brand struck some visitors as incongruous, it was more or less lost amongst a sea of other tackiness, and many foreign visitors in particular were happy to acquire a familiar beverage if not of good then at least of known quality in the middle of a trek through what can sometimes seem an endless sea of flagstones. For more than six years Starbucks happily carried on doing business, and the Forbidden City management ignored any negative comment and was equally happy to pocket the rent.

But in early 2007 a self-important anchor-man for CCTV’s English service called Ruì Chénggāng (芮成钢) made an entry on his blog complaining about Starbucks’ presence in the Forbidden City, describing it as an erosion (a trashing is another translation) of Chinese culture, and claiming to fret about the mixed reactions of foreign visitors. He reported that he had personally told the CEO of Starbucks that the company should move out. 

The post was featured on the home page of one of China’s most popular Internet portals, then published in English by a Hong Kongblogger whose torrent of translations from Chinese domestic media sometimes drives the direction of foreign commentary on the country. When the foreign press then picked up the story this caused further comment in the Chinese media which then drove readers to sign an on-line petition against Starbucks.

There was much trumpeting of the power of ‘citizen blogging’, which must have pleased authorities more used to scathing criticism that the Internet in China is heavily controlled and thoroughly censored, and tickled the self-importance of the bloggers themselves. Since Ruì, a media star and globe-trotter with a correspondingly large audience was anything but an ordinary ‘citizen blogger’ this amounted to nothing more than hubris, although some foreign media were foolish enough to run stories that ridiculously overestimated the power of Chinese bloggers.

Very many of those commenting on Chinese blogs displayed the aggressive and ill-informed nationalism common in both school books and the media in China, and others a distressing xenophobia equally common particularly amongst fènqīng (愤青) or ‘angry youth’, and to such a degree that Ruì felt compelled to backpedal and state that he wished merely to complain about commercialism at national monuments. 

Some foreign commentators then rather naively supported this self-assessment although it was belied both by the tone and content of his original statements and by other posts on his blog revealing an obsession with events ‘humiliating’ China up to 150 years in the past. He effectively provided a button marked, ‘If you don’t like foreigners, click here,’ to which jingoistic media coverage drove hundreds of thousands who would previously have had no opinion whatsoever on Starbucks’ Forbidden City presence.

Starbucks’ vice-president for greater China, one Eden Woon, told the Reuters news agency that, ‘Starbucks appreciates the deep history and culture of the Forbidden City and has operated in a respectful manner that fits within the environment,’ a statement also rather economical with the truth since the company had originally demonstrated a lack of tact with its overly prominent signage and been forced to reduce it.

The Forbidden City authorities were reported to have taken fright, although since no Chinese institution willingly pays any attention to public opinion whatsoever that seemed unlikely. Nevertheless, it asked Starbucks to consider selling its products under a different brand, which the company declined to do. No doubt with future expansion in China and the continued prosperity of 200 existing stores there in mind, Woon made emollient noises. Denials of any plans to leave turned overnight into a respectful withdrawal and the kind of compromise kow-tow and cutting of losses to which many foreign companies in China feel compelled when ‘taking the long-term view’.

Ruì succeeded in garnering publicity for himself and triumphed in his petty victory as Starbucks was replaced with very suspicious swiftness by a wholly Forbidden City-owned company called China Tea (中茶). Although China Tea sells tea, it also sells coffee in more or less the same range of styles as Starbucks less some of that company’s more gooey and only distantly coffee-related inventions, and it’s these, not tea, that lead its menu. How substitution of one coffee shop for another could be a victory for Ruì’s supposed drive to reduce commercialism at national monuments wasn’t clear.

Ruì felt compelled to comment that non-Forbidden City brands were not being excluded to form a monopoly, which of course caused even greater suspicion that this was precisely what was happening. Some years ago, in order to try and drive out the American Acoustiguide company only partway through its contract and to replace it with a Chinese system and thus make more profit, the authorities simply shut down the electricity to the company’s sales points within the palace. Was this coffee coup also opportunism on their part?

The coffee and the manner in which it is made and sold remain every bit as foreign as in Ruì’s original comment to Starbucks’ CEO and as when Starbucks sold it (although some beans are now bought from Yúnnán Province where, ironically, coffee was first planted in China by the French). But now, of course, all the profits are going to the Forbidden City directly. As in so many cases in China a foreign company has introduced a new service and developed a market only to find its products copied and itself manoeuvred out of business. The sight of foreigners making money in China is very often inimical to Chinese peace of mind.

Furthermore, Ruì has said his next target is American Express, complaining about the appearance of the banking company’s logos on signage it has sponsored within the palace. In remarks to The Guardian newspaper he compared these to labelling the Mona Lisa as ‘Sponsored by the Bank of China.’

But setting aside that the parallel would actually be if the Chinese bank sponsored a sign explaining something useful about the Mona Lisa, no one in the West would turn a hair at such a thing, and (if possible human rights protests were set aside) sponsorship by a Chinese bank would be as welcome as that from a bank of any other nationality. Although Ruì says Chinese pride is hurt when foreign companies have a presence in the Forbidden City, no one would feel pride in their European heritage reduced in the reverse case. This is a point the xenophobic Ruì is unable to appreciate, and before ramming his foot even deeper into his mouth, he might have noted that the Louvre not only has the Mona Lisa but a Starbucks, too.

Furthermore, if word leaked out that a Chinese-run tea concession was being kicked out of the Louvre because it wasn’t French and so that the French themselves could sell the very same product, the same fènqīng would be expressing outrage (and some of them hacking the museum’s web pages and launching denial of service attacks). And the shouting from the West in defence of the Chinese tea operation would probably be louder still.

The World Monuments Fund has organised principally American funding for a twelve-year major restoration of the Qiánlōng emperor’s garden, now partly completed. Would Ruì care to object to that, and find Chinese sources for the US$18 million of sponsorship instead? Or is it fine as long as there are no signs pointing out the origin of the funding?

What truly ‘undermines the solemnity’ of the Forbidden City is seeing air-conditioners studding ancient buildings now converted into gift shops, and finding yourself beckoned into one with the promise of access to a bed used by the Qiánlōng emperor if you’re willing to spend a large enough sum on overpriced trinkets. 

Under the circumstances the coffee from China Tea ought perhaps to have a bitter aftertaste. 

Would you like some hazelnut syrup with that? Or perhaps a dollop of humbug?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just stumbled across this posting, a little late in the day. I&#8217;m glad the owners of this blog find The Oriental-List worth reading and perhaps might even consider contributing (<a href="http://www.datasinica.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.datasinica.com</a> for details), but it should be clear that this is a mechanism for the exchange of views on travel in China and not, like a blog, a medium managed by the moderator for his own pronouncements. Views there do tend to be a little more casually placed and casually expressed than is perhaps quite appropriate for the earnest analysis they are given here.</p>
<p>However, I do think Rui Chenggang is far from deserving the credit he&#8217;s given above, and that there&#8217;s a great deal more in the Starbucks issue to be discussed, perhaps along these lines:</p>
<p>A Storm in a Coffee Cup</p>
<p>Back in 2000 the Forbidden City management leased a small space to the ubiquitous coffee chain Starbucks with little fanfare, although after a few years and following some adverse comment the company reduced its signage to make its presence a little more discreet.</p>
<p>The Forbidden City had been awash in commercialism for more than a decade, with tacky souvenir stalls and second-rate snack outlets at every turn, so although the presence of the famous foreign brand struck some visitors as incongruous, it was more or less lost amongst a sea of other tackiness, and many foreign visitors in particular were happy to acquire a familiar beverage if not of good then at least of known quality in the middle of a trek through what can sometimes seem an endless sea of flagstones. For more than six years Starbucks happily carried on doing business, and the Forbidden City management ignored any negative comment and was equally happy to pocket the rent.</p>
<p>But in early 2007 a self-important anchor-man for CCTV’s English service called Ruì Chénggāng (芮成钢) made an entry on his blog complaining about Starbucks’ presence in the Forbidden City, describing it as an erosion (a trashing is another translation) of Chinese culture, and claiming to fret about the mixed reactions of foreign visitors. He reported that he had personally told the CEO of Starbucks that the company should move out. </p>
<p>The post was featured on the home page of one of China’s most popular Internet portals, then published in English by a Hong Kongblogger whose torrent of translations from Chinese domestic media sometimes drives the direction of foreign commentary on the country. When the foreign press then picked up the story this caused further comment in the Chinese media which then drove readers to sign an on-line petition against Starbucks.</p>
<p>There was much trumpeting of the power of ‘citizen blogging’, which must have pleased authorities more used to scathing criticism that the Internet in China is heavily controlled and thoroughly censored, and tickled the self-importance of the bloggers themselves. Since Ruì, a media star and globe-trotter with a correspondingly large audience was anything but an ordinary ‘citizen blogger’ this amounted to nothing more than hubris, although some foreign media were foolish enough to run stories that ridiculously overestimated the power of Chinese bloggers.</p>
<p>Very many of those commenting on Chinese blogs displayed the aggressive and ill-informed nationalism common in both school books and the media in China, and others a distressing xenophobia equally common particularly amongst fènqīng (愤青) or ‘angry youth’, and to such a degree that Ruì felt compelled to backpedal and state that he wished merely to complain about commercialism at national monuments. </p>
<p>Some foreign commentators then rather naively supported this self-assessment although it was belied both by the tone and content of his original statements and by other posts on his blog revealing an obsession with events ‘humiliating’ China up to 150 years in the past. He effectively provided a button marked, ‘If you don’t like foreigners, click here,’ to which jingoistic media coverage drove hundreds of thousands who would previously have had no opinion whatsoever on Starbucks’ Forbidden City presence.</p>
<p>Starbucks’ vice-president for greater China, one Eden Woon, told the Reuters news agency that, ‘Starbucks appreciates the deep history and culture of the Forbidden City and has operated in a respectful manner that fits within the environment,’ a statement also rather economical with the truth since the company had originally demonstrated a lack of tact with its overly prominent signage and been forced to reduce it.</p>
<p>The Forbidden City authorities were reported to have taken fright, although since no Chinese institution willingly pays any attention to public opinion whatsoever that seemed unlikely. Nevertheless, it asked Starbucks to consider selling its products under a different brand, which the company declined to do. No doubt with future expansion in China and the continued prosperity of 200 existing stores there in mind, Woon made emollient noises. Denials of any plans to leave turned overnight into a respectful withdrawal and the kind of compromise kow-tow and cutting of losses to which many foreign companies in China feel compelled when ‘taking the long-term view’.</p>
<p>Ruì succeeded in garnering publicity for himself and triumphed in his petty victory as Starbucks was replaced with very suspicious swiftness by a wholly Forbidden City-owned company called China Tea (中茶). Although China Tea sells tea, it also sells coffee in more or less the same range of styles as Starbucks less some of that company’s more gooey and only distantly coffee-related inventions, and it’s these, not tea, that lead its menu. How substitution of one coffee shop for another could be a victory for Ruì’s supposed drive to reduce commercialism at national monuments wasn’t clear.</p>
<p>Ruì felt compelled to comment that non-Forbidden City brands were not being excluded to form a monopoly, which of course caused even greater suspicion that this was precisely what was happening. Some years ago, in order to try and drive out the American Acoustiguide company only partway through its contract and to replace it with a Chinese system and thus make more profit, the authorities simply shut down the electricity to the company’s sales points within the palace. Was this coffee coup also opportunism on their part?</p>
<p>The coffee and the manner in which it is made and sold remain every bit as foreign as in Ruì’s original comment to Starbucks’ CEO and as when Starbucks sold it (although some beans are now bought from Yúnnán Province where, ironically, coffee was first planted in China by the French). But now, of course, all the profits are going to the Forbidden City directly. As in so many cases in China a foreign company has introduced a new service and developed a market only to find its products copied and itself manoeuvred out of business. The sight of foreigners making money in China is very often inimical to Chinese peace of mind.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Ruì has said his next target is American Express, complaining about the appearance of the banking company’s logos on signage it has sponsored within the palace. In remarks to The Guardian newspaper he compared these to labelling the Mona Lisa as ‘Sponsored by the Bank of China.’</p>
<p>But setting aside that the parallel would actually be if the Chinese bank sponsored a sign explaining something useful about the Mona Lisa, no one in the West would turn a hair at such a thing, and (if possible human rights protests were set aside) sponsorship by a Chinese bank would be as welcome as that from a bank of any other nationality. Although Ruì says Chinese pride is hurt when foreign companies have a presence in the Forbidden City, no one would feel pride in their European heritage reduced in the reverse case. This is a point the xenophobic Ruì is unable to appreciate, and before ramming his foot even deeper into his mouth, he might have noted that the Louvre not only has the Mona Lisa but a Starbucks, too.</p>
<p>Furthermore, if word leaked out that a Chinese-run tea concession was being kicked out of the Louvre because it wasn’t French and so that the French themselves could sell the very same product, the same fènqīng would be expressing outrage (and some of them hacking the museum’s web pages and launching denial of service attacks). And the shouting from the West in defence of the Chinese tea operation would probably be louder still.</p>
<p>The World Monuments Fund has organised principally American funding for a twelve-year major restoration of the Qiánlōng emperor’s garden, now partly completed. Would Ruì care to object to that, and find Chinese sources for the US$18 million of sponsorship instead? Or is it fine as long as there are no signs pointing out the origin of the funding?</p>
<p>What truly ‘undermines the solemnity’ of the Forbidden City is seeing air-conditioners studding ancient buildings now converted into gift shops, and finding yourself beckoned into one with the promise of access to a bed used by the Qiánlōng emperor if you’re willing to spend a large enough sum on overpriced trinkets. </p>
<p>Under the circumstances the coffee from China Tea ought perhaps to have a bitter aftertaste. </p>
<p>Would you like some hazelnut syrup with that? Or perhaps a dollop of humbug?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The visa blacklist by Third Tone Devil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Third Tone Devil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting (and of course annoying). I wonder if anyone else has had similar experiences?</description>
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		<title>Comment on The visa blacklist by MOHAMMAD SATTARI KHAH</title>
		<link>http://chinasaysno.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/the-visa-blacklist/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>MOHAMMAD SATTARI KHAH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TH5S 5S THE FIRST TIME FOR TAKE VISA FOR EIBITION CHINA BUT MY NAME WAS IN BLACK LIST
I THINK THIS A MSTAKE 
I MISS MY FLIGHT</description>
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I THINK THIS A MSTAKE<br />
I MISS MY FLIGHT</p>
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